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ol trashfire joe - Posted - 03/09/2022:  21:26:08


I don't know what is going on with this neck...I thought counter clockwise would take a bow out, and it did. This is something else(?) ...or is it? Should I just keep jamming on the one way truss rod? Should I tighten it instead? There seems to be a warp on the body at the top of the sound hole where the fretboard meets the sound hole.so I am thinking it got overtightened at some point and left for too long like that and it warped/bent the wood over time.

Any Luthiers, amateur or otherwise, or anyone with knowledge and experience for that matter, have any pointers or suggestions? I was thinking about removing the bridge and shaving it down along with the nut but that doesn't seem to be the problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


beegee - Posted - 03/10/2022:  18:58:41


What kind if guitar is it?



It looks as if the bridge has pulled up and been glued back down with something. The neck is a mess.

I'd pull the neck, true up the fretboard, get the truss rod under control and re-set the neck after checking the top for bellying and loose braces. Glue the bridge down after installing an oversized bridge plate and leveling the top. Buy everything must be done in the proper order to stabilize the guitar.



It seems to me that you would need to entrust the repairs to a competent guitar mechanic. If this is an inexpensive plywood guitar, it may be better to chuck it or hang it on the wall. The cost of repair will likely exceed the value of the guitar


Edited by - beegee on 03/10/2022 19:02:02

ol trashfire joe - Posted - 03/10/2022:  20:46:18


No, it's not an expensive guitar at all but I did just buy it. It's an early 2000's Jasmine es 44c model. They claim mahogany and spruce top, but If so it's laminate (?) maybe. I'm better with two way adjustable, but never owned a one way before this one. Yeah, I don't know how I didn't notice that when I was checking it out, but I shaved down the nut and put some shims underneath the (what I'm guessing is the pizeoelectronic) bridge then adjusted the rod as much as I thought it would take. It's definitely better than it was but still not great.

I appreciate you responding and giving me advice. unless I can make a luthier friend sometime in the near future I don't know that I'll do anything except like what you said, hang that thing up on a wall somewhere. After I take the pickup system out of course.

-B.

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 03/12/2022:  11:05:25


Tighten the truss rod to straighten the neck. Bridge looks pulled, saddle is down almost to max in order to compensate for pulled top. Check for that by running your fingers across top behind bride, is there a hump?. Don't ever buy a guitar with a pulled top unless it very valuable and would warrant the big expense of repair.

rcc56 - Posted - 04/09/2022:  23:36:57


That instrument is a basket case, and is only useful as something for a beginning repairman to practice on to learn the craft. The cost of the repairs will exceed the value of the instrument by many hundreds of dollars.



For future reference, to take a concave bow out of a neck, turn a truss rod clockwise, not counter-clockwise.



"Jamming on the truss rod" usually results in a broken truss rod. That one might be broken already.


Edited by - rcc56 on 04/09/2022 23:39:26

ol trashfire joe - Posted - 06/05/2022:  01:24:49


So for anyone who cares, or not, I did fix this thing up to the best of my ability and the neck is straight, the strings sit a little high, but is still totally playable as an acoustic only guitar. - it was fun and interesting as a learning experience all the way around. It taught me to more thoroughly check out any used instrument I purchase and the main things to look for, and then it taught me a little experience dealing with this kind of stuff. Unfortunately I have extremely limited Luthiery knowledge and did only what I felt confident that I could. The guitar is currently on sale on the marketplace for half what I gave for it, $50.

P.S. - I know which direction to turn a truss rod to acquire the desired results...sometimes I just have to remind myself -lefty loosely righty tighty.

Good day I say.

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